I have been to Jo berg twice. The last time being 3-years ago. Each visit was not pleasant as being in the city reminded me of being in Northern Ireland in the early 1980’s. I was in the British military and engaged in various bits and bobs in the most dangerous village in the country (based upon the number of security forces who lost there lives there). The reason I mention this is the ‘vibe’ in Jo Berg is exactly the same as it was in Northern Ireland’s ‘murder central’. The only exception is i was walking around without the comfort of a weapon in my hands and three other desperados backing me up (we operated in 4 man teams). I have had a look at the ‘scores’ section on Jo Berg and it is in no way representative of the situation on the ground. Whether you are an expat nomad or a whatever please understand that Jo Berg is not a place to go ‘sight seeing’ in unless you have a couple SUV’s rammed with black water personnel following you. Joking aside there are better places to live in Southern Africa.
Pros and Cons of Living in Sao Paulo, Brazil
Pros of Living in Sao Paulo
Lots of fun stuff to do
Warm all year round
Good air quality today
Nomad List members liked going here a lot
Many Nomad List members here all year round
Spacious and not crowded
Easy to make friends
High quality of education
Safe for women
Very friendly to LGBTQ+
Not many people smoke tobacco
Cons of Living in Sao Paulo
Freedom of speech is weak
Not very safe
Pretty slow internet
Difficult to do business
Roads can be dangerous
People don't speak English well
I live here and I would like to comment on some things that might be different from what you expect: - Walkability: Definitely not great the city is huge, there are neighborhood where is safe to walk, with interesting stuff to do, but this isn't the case on most places far from west zone (Pinheiros and Vila Madalena) and Paulista avenue. Expect to use public transportation (subway and buses) and uber a lot. - LGBTQ+: Sao Paulo is the state with most homicides against trans people in the whole country. Violence against all LGBTQ+ is surging rampantly, you can search for it, there are some good of articles in English with data. - Hospitals: There are great hospitals here, but they are, as a majority, private and will cost you to use any service. Public hospitals are available, but don't expect English speaking staff or short queues, they are pretty packed (even after midnight). Prices are way off too, in the good and safe neighborhoods, don't expect to pay less that 10USD for a meal in a sit-in restaurant. There are cheaper options, but they will hardly have English speaking staff.
I like São Paulo but I don't love it. It's pretty boring in my opinion. Probably because I love Buenos Aires so much and it just does not compare. Also for the 4 months (September - January) I was there, it was cold, overcast, and rainy 85% of the days. It was pretty depressing! Other than that, it's pretty safe overall for Latin America. Also, I really appreciate how people here take COVID more seriously than in a lot of other places in Brazil. If I had to do it again, I would stay near Ibirapuera Park - it's so beautiful.
A particularly interesting city to make business (Brazil is the strongest economy in Latin America). I recommend learning some basic Portuguese to really network and connect with the people; Brazilians might party openly with foreigners but reserve the most interesting parts of their culture to Portuguese speakers.
Never written a review before but I've been to most of the top cities on Nomadlist and they're all pretty good.... however Sao Paolo is a fine city, typical for Latin America, but it doesn't belong at #7 (as of this writing) There's just nothing especially interesting about it compared to other cities.
Greatest city to be a nomad in Brazil by far. Low crime rate when compared to Rio 4G works great in a lot of places and what you can have the most is fun here. Cost of living can be a little too high if you don't pick carefully a place, but people are friendly and help you to find the perfect place. Ah, and food here is delicious, even if you're a vegan.
Sao Paulo is a place of high contrasts. Massive buildings roads, and road rage co-exist with peaceful parks, fantastic skies, and very kind locals. Before you go, make sure you have the right expectations because this place is the South American equivalent of LA or NYC. It is absurdly different from Rio as far as the activities and landscape. Some of my favorite things are the 20,000+ restaurants and bars, people watching (more contrast), free art museums and attractions, and the fantastic co-working spaces (not cheap, but some very well designed). On September 2021, 1 dollar buys 5.19 reais (local currency). One of the reviews mentions cold but this Spring, the temperatures are hitting 95-100F consistently. It may get "cold" there about 5 days a year.
Sao Paulo is a great city one of the biggest in the world and has everything you'll ever need. Compare it with New York without all the glamour and you have it
Amazing place and kind of a futuristic city!! Public transportation is also great, especially the subway.
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